Exclusive | Rudy Giluiani tells ‘Pod Force One’ about RICO case he had prepared for ‘point man’ Joe Biden

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Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani told “Pod Force One” in an episode released Wednesday that he had drafted a racketeering case against Joe Biden that alleged the former vice president served as “point man” in foreign policy posts that often did nothing for the US — but got his own family “rich.”

“The laptop made it about as easy to prosecute a conspiracy, RICO, whatever you want, a case … that I’d ever seen,” Giuliani told The Post’s Miranda Devine on the podcast, referring to emails on Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop, FBI informant files and other information showing the future 46th president “took massive bribes.”

Biden has repeatedly denied any involvement in his son Hunter or brother James’ business ventures before, during and after his presidential term, referring to the allegations as “a bunch of lies.”

Giuliani, the former US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, then laid out several instances in which Biden was “the point man for Obama” in countries — including in Iraq and Ukraine — where his family sought business deals while he was vice president.

“He had a very simple mission in Iraq. His mission was to negotiate a status of forces agreement with the Iraq government that we basically controlled,” Giuliani recalled.

“That means, if we leave soldiers behind in a volatile situation, they get prosecuted by us, not by a government that might be partially terrorist.”

“We can’t leave our soldiers in that situation,” he said.


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“But, of course, as his fellow Secretary of Defense [Robert Gates] said, Biden never did anything in foreign policy.“

“He comes back with no status of forces agreement, which means we have to leave Iraq completely,” Giuliani added. “America gets nothing … but his brother gets a 25% piece of a billion-dollar housing deal and, as usual, knows nothing about housing.”

The $1.5 billion contract would have seen 100,000 low-cost homes built in Iraq as part of James Biden‘s 2010 joint venture, known as HillStone International — but construction was never started.

At the time, Joe Biden had “regular engagement with Iraq” through his work for the Obama administration.

The Iraqi home-building venture ended in 2012, and it’s unclear what James Biden earned over the roughly two-year tenue, The Wall Street Journal first reported.

Giuliani also called out Biden on the podcast for blundering in having mentioned his efforts to get Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin fired while his son Hunter was serving on the board of the gas company Burisma that was under state investigation.


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Biden oversaw Ukraine as part of his foreign policy portfolio at the time as well.

“He got appointed to run Ukraine, particularly the flow of money to Ukraine. And, he’s supposed to help them become honest,” Giuliani said. “He’s supposed to help them deal with their corruption, and he’s supposed to help them fight Russia.”

But Biden “threatened [then-Ukrainian President Petro] Poroshenko with withholding a billion dollars of US aid unless you fire Viktor Shokin, the prosecutor general, who was investigating Burisma,” Giuliani added.

Giuliani had received information starting in late 2018 about the pressure campaign to oust Shokin, he said.

Subsequent FBI files released by congressional Republicans show that an informant said Joe and Hunter Biden each took $5 million bribes from Burisma’s owner in exchange for providing protection from Shokin’s corruption investigation — allegations the Bidens have denied.

Giuliani said that in addition to Iraq and Ukraine, the other two aspects of the RICO case would have involved Russia — including a “very odd” $3.5 million wire transfer from a Russian billionaire to Hunter Biden — and more than $5 million from a joint venture with a Chinese energy conglomerate, CEFC.

“He made it to the top and he got lucky. Biden may have taken more bribes than any American president, just by force of circumstances,” the former New York City mayor said.

Biden had in the past laughed off the bribery and corruption accusations, saying in response to a question from The Post in June 2023, “Where’s the money?”

Reps for Biden did not respond to a request for comment.

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